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Found inside – Page 26Fossil evidence shows that the Gulf Stream has shut down in the past and pushed ... Today's computer models suggest that a shutdown of the Gulf Stream would ... The energy required to cool those spaces is not taken into consideration. Not quite the story. A shutting down of the Gulf Stream will lead to cold Arctic-like conditions invading Western Europe almost overnight, concludes Mauriello, with Britain, Ireland, and Scandinavia at the forefront of the blast.. Over the past century, there has been “an almost complete loss of stability” in the current due to these factors, the study found. We are super social animals and exponentially more capable as groups than individuals. This strong current of warm water influences the climate of the east coast of Florida, keeping temperatures there warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer than the other southeastern states. Clearly, neither of these strategies will help us as a nation here. The most underappreciated damage from global warming is the chaotic unpredictability of medium-term weather, which will make agriculture much more chancy. all of them while still in their bunkers. The timing of its publication 5 August is suspicious to me: At the very best it is 1800 again. That’s IMO one of the missing arguments in the “we’ll just have to adjust”. It’s almost like the collapse of the Soviet Union caused a case of aphasia and amnesia at the level of “science.”. Indicating ocean warming – because other info has glacier buildup on the continent of Antarctica due to more snow than usual. Forced localization is coming so best to be prepared. The SPICE effort fizzled for reasons Mirowski elaborates near the tail of his keynote lecture for ‘Life and Debt’ conference — intellectual property disputes. The collapse of the Gulf-Stream is only one of many so-called tipping points in the climate systems. Then it started raining last year. I also doubt that Europe would freeze if the Gulf Stream stall continues. The paleoclimate has changed abruptly in the past and promises to change abruptly in response to what amounts to a large step change in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. What if the CIA was a hidden co-ordinator of much of the global warming denialism for just exactly that reason and with that goal in mind? Early and Bold’un. Found inside – Page 91... due to the shutdown of the Gulf Stream conveyor belt are historically common. ... indeed, shut down in the past and caused regional climate change. It bears a certain resemblance to current processes …. Gulf Stream Shutdown Caused By Geological Heat Flow In May of 2010 the famous Gulf Stream, a major ocean current highway used by ancient and present-day sailors for centuries, suddenly and unexpectedly shut down / stopped flowing. Juneau still has a mild climate. democracies. Get your own situation buttoned-up while there’s still time. It’s just my own radar, but I thought Jim Hansen was being censored a decade ago; not allowed to go on TV interviews and speak freely, etc. They obviously haven’t visited the volcano simulation in the Auckland museum. Looking forward, government forecasters with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration are expecting a massive ramp-up in hurricane activity over the next few weeks, predicting what would be one of the most active Atlantic hurricane seasons in history. You are preparing them if you are encouraging them to be social, to cooperate, coordinate, communicate and care. Whether you happen to survive the transition is just a lottery (you need to be living on a farm with direct access to food growing outside your front door) , and remember everything else is gone, modern medicine, antibiotics, etc etc. But think about all that oil that will be available for global markets when Greenland turns green again. atmospheric-pressure system similar to the one near the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic. Think this conjecture is getting play in Chad/Namibia/Borneo/Serbia/Turkmenistan/Argentina/Ghana, etc.??? These, also are measured in Sverdrops… vertical Sverdrops. Experts have discussed it as a likely outcome for some time. The only thing we seem able to do rapidly on a national level is 1) launch military strikes, and 2) protect the interests of asset holders, income assistance for people who already have money. They set up a system of a length of logging chain tied to a length of lighter chain tied to rope tied to lighter rope and on down to monofilament fishing line. We in Eastern North America and East Asia will be less affected in the short run than Western Europe. Found inside... sheets (uncontrollable once started), Gulf Stream shutdown and runaway warming whichmight raise sealevels every year for thousandsof years, unstoppably. The systems of growing food and preserving it has changed quite a bit from the 60’s. I find that linear thinking is probably one of the biggest faulty thinking heuristics that people use basically everywhere (technical fields and daily life) so I think your comment is spot on. It just took a while because it takes water a while to heat and cool. If the US and/or UK keep deciding to not do geo-e, and to not do anything either, and carbon skyloads keep going up, and China keeps suffering more Harvey Dayloads of rain, eventually competence itself will drive the ChinaGov to ” do something”. Wildfires have also scorched millions of acres in the western U.S., with California on pace to surpass its record-shattering 2020 season in terms of the number of fires. But no-one has an idea what it will actually mean in terms of temperatures and precipitation. Rising, or dropping ground water levels could have serious impacts on apparently solid looking structures. I have been reading about this possibility since years before that 2004 film “The Day After Tomorrow” was made but it looks like I may get to see it actually happen. The Gulf Stream is an ocean current that keeps the UK warmer than it would be given its latitude alone. Ice on Greenland cannot melt fast enough to affect the salinity to the degree necessary to repeat the 8,200 BP cold spell. . We need to work on these attributes much more than some far flung geoengineering idea, me thinks. People in power stand in our way.”, The study comes ahead of a United Nations climate summitin Glasgow set to begin October 31. RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate scientists for the interested public and journalists. My children are 8 and younger. And even without events like ocean circulation changes, climate change is serious enough to demand decisive action.’ ”. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents. One might argue that the collapse of the Atlantic conveyer belt might help trigger that, except that if you look at what’s happening in Siberia the last two years the methane release and melting of the permafrost there has already begun and doesn’t need help. That is why I like the fact that you mentioned the butterfly effect. We are the same species as those humans. If they believe they can recline in their palaces here while the peasantry leaves its tithe at their doors in awe and humility they’re very much mistaken, and if they retreat to their bunkers to empty their wine cellars and laid up canned caviar ’til its over they might well find the doors barred on the outside when they decide they’d like to enrich the world with their presence again. And there is a huge problem which I’ve seen with flooding projections that once an assumption is built into a regulatory structure, it takes many years to change it, even when people can see with their own eyes that the assumption is incorrect. Many Americans know AMOC as the Gulf Stream: the warm, surface-level current in the Atlantic Ocean that hugs the East Coast. This wd bring, in the words of their reporter, "catastrophic consequences around the world". Climate scientists have detected warning signs of the collapse of the Gulf Stream, one of the planet’s main potential tipping points. Same goes for much of western Europe, central Europe has more of a continental climate, although again, who knows what butterfly effect it would have there. Will all that heat just sit there and fester till it figures out a way to rise up from the surface in truly vast rivers of water vapor and move over Central North America? It all sounds pretty out of control. I’ve started into a dated book, a ’94 printing of “Solar Gardening”; the authors (two people) claim to feed themselves out of a 1/8 acre plot that is intensively gardened year-round, in a chilly New England state. We know this from the (pre)historical icecore record. Unfortunately, as a group sociopaths tend to take over the civilizational structures we have built. Yes. The Gulf Stream's system of ocean currents is showing signs of instability. In his Nye Lecture to the AGU, Jim White used a story about an explorer making good time paddling with the main current of the Niagara River. The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. Floating cities, climate-resistant coffee and – could the Gulf Stream shut down? And yes, it’s not linear — the process of tipping over to a new eocene or miocene-type phase of the Earth’s climate could take as little three years to happen. But the colossal impact it would have means it must never be allowed to happen, the scientists said. Fresh water intrusion from melting glaciers in the north apparently decreases salinity and shuts off sinking water in the north that would otherwise … Simply see what the Warmists are predicting, and whichever of those predictions you think won’t happen, invest in things which depend on those predictions not happening. “Our analysis paints a very different picture than IPCC (2013) for continuation of this Hyper-Anthropocene phase, if GHG [Green House Gas] emissions continue to grow. Impacts of a Changing Gulf Stream. The fires in the Arctic circle may make life in parts of Canada difficult, and melting permafrost can also destabilize building foundations. Found insideWe saw there that the Gulf Stream is primarily wind-driven and that it is part of a system of large subtropical gyres. Accordingly, it could never shut down ... I am not expecting any material change / assistance / coping top- down. The film “If” is close to the regime. This is meteor about to hit the earth type news. I'm a news reporter for Forbes, primarily covering the U.S. South. I don’t expect to be around much longer due to my age, health issues and Covid but it would be nice if the youngsters had a chance. The Elites have made their response to the coming abrupt changes to the Earth’s climate clear. If this circulation shuts down, it could bring extreme cold to Europe and parts of North America. And more raindump waterbomb events randomly everywhere throughtout the East and Central US and Canada? Get youngsters off of their cell phones and into a garden. Kubler-Ross and all the rest, I’ve got the T-shirt. “It’s something you just can’t [allow to] happen.”, It is unclear what level of global heating would cause a collapse, “so the only thing to do is keep emissions as low as possible,” he added. of this paper claims to have created “robust and general early-warning indicator for forthcoming critical transitions” and further claims “Significant early-warning signals are found in eight independent AMOC indices ….” The very same day that Nature publishes Boers’s article the Environment editor at the Guardian picked the story up and reported it. I attended college on a scholarship elsewhere. I also had a tight deadline for a sculpture but couldn’t work as the modelling wax which is normally soft & pliable became like concrete. Found inside – Page 10the unthinkable—the Gulf Stream could someday shut down, triggering an ice age. No More Stuffy Nights Aboard. This is The New Way. >. Beach. I believe that’s why western seaboards of continents in the northern hemisphere experience a tighter range of temperature than their eastern counterparts at the same latitude – they’re not picking up the extreme conditions generated in the centre of the landmass. Certainly not modern agriculture which depends upon oil, R&D and electricity, none of which is going to be available in relevant amounts. Describes environmental, safety, and health problems throughout the nuclear weapons complex and what the U.S. Dept. of Energy is doing to address them. New Zealand is a giant volcano. The so-called intermittency problem of renewables will be as nothing compared to the regular shut downs we will see once unpredictable weather patterns hits our conventional energy networks. Lester Brown’s World Watch Institute’s State of the World annual series, The Whole Earth Review, Scientific American, the Science News dealt with the topic extensively and it was discussed in detail in the Progressive, Nation, Washington Monthly, and other popular “alternative” press and also in the broadsheets like the LA Times, Boston Globe, and New York Times. Produced by the Mediterranean Climate Variability and Predictability Research Networking Project, this book reviews the evolution of the Mediterranean climate over the past two millennia with projections further into the twenty-first ... The best known segment of this circulation is the Gulf Stream, a wind-driven gyre, which transports warm water from the Caribbean northwards. PlutoniumKun; This has always been the nightmare scenario. To me it makes sense that we should alter our lifestyle to avoid global warming. I worry more about the US and Britain than China. Hey, that would apply to nuclear power stations as well. But … The heat wave also took a devastating human toll, likely killing hundreds of people. The “rest of us” really need to create action groups dedicated to finding the Elite bunkers and sealing them in so they all die in their bunkers. A Climate Disaster Is Unfolding Before Our Eyes—And Politicians Still Refuse to Take Action, US as Failed State: Covid Booster Shot Mess, US Has No Intention of a Global Military Retreat Despite Biden’s Promise, The Bizarre Civil War-Stoking Impulses of the Professional-Managerial Class in the US, As US Prepares to Ban Ivermectin for Covid-19, More Countries in Asia Begin Using It, ‘Unimaginably Catastrophic’: Researchers Fear Gulf Stream System Could Collapse, When is a Majority a Minority? If the ChinaGov decides to do geo-engineering, who is going to ask them if they have permission? Amusing quote, putting all this decades into the future, from the Wikipedia article about The Day After Tomorrow —, “Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, an expert on thermohaline circulation and its effect on climate, said after a talk with scriptwriter Jeffrey Nachmanoff at the film’s Berlin preview:: ‘Clearly this is a disaster movie and not a scientific documentary, [and] the film makers have taken a lot of artistic license. Abstract: The film The Day After Tomorrow depicts the abrupt and catastrophic transformation of the Earth's climate into a new ice age, playing upon the uncertainty surrounding a possible North Atlantic thermohaline circulation (Gulf ... infrastructure implies connecting various systems: water, power, transportation……… I feel all large systems will collapse and we’ll only have our immediate environment to (try to) live in. Archeology tends to show that sea levels go up in steps rather than linearly, a big rise in a couple of decades then a pause, then another big rise. Sounds like you have a very clever daughter and prospective son-in-law, scholarships make a huge difference of course. Oh, and . The actual Gulf Stream off the US coast is a part of this more comprehensive circulation system. Powell’s shows a hardback edition of Sophie’s Planet as a preorder item. Found insideThe Gulfstream shut down as the navy jet taxied to the parking area to tie down next to Reed's plane. Reed and Astrid came down the stairs as ... But, with the warming climate, the cold water gradually vanished, allowing Atlantic water to invade the Barents Sea. Since that water is also relatively warm, the change is going to be exceedingly difficult to reverse. As for the Gulf Stream, it's part of a larger system called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC. destroy the delicate balances holding earth as we know it together. Combining complete collapse with constant change will be the tough part. The study, which appeared in the journal Nature Climate Change, found several signs that Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), of which the Gulf Stream is a part, is slowing down … This volume reflects the current state of scientific knowledge about natural climate variability on decade-to-century time scales. On Feb. 13, an expedition set sail from Great Britain to place current-monitoring sensors in the Atlantic Ocean that will check the Gulf Stream for signs of slowing. Think of it like an egg painted blue and that blue is the atmosphere we are hell bent on wrecking. Of course, it’s possible that extreme climate change might change the structure of Hadley cells. many scientists have been warning about the Gulf stream problem for years, not just one lonely voice. The Gulf Stream shutting down. The current helps moderate temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere, taking warm water from the tropics northward on the Gulf Stream toward Europe, before returning submerged, colder waters southward toward Antarctica. And so those maritime westerlies will be blowing nothing but freezing air off the Atlantic, summer or winter. This leads to my comment that people (humans in general) will have to ignore the entire concept of “infrastructure” because there will only be very localized existence. The 3,500 sq foot house kept toasty in winter and chilly in summer? I remember reading a paranoid scenario think piece maybe 20 years ago or so. The only scenario with less doom will be to shelter in place until such time the killer cold clears and eventually evacuate to a new ice age. Aren’t the maritime westerlies warmed by the gulf stream? In late June, temperatures in the typically mild Pacific Northwest soared to all-time record highs, with Portland, Oregon, hitting 116 degrees, and the mercury rising to 120 in Canada for the first time ever. I teach many children and so, so many of them don’t know what aphids are much less how to repair a flat tire on a bike. They won’t have a choice about which values they adopt. That’s my bet. The Gulf Stream and future climate change A slowdown of the Gulf Stream and ocean circulation in the future, induced by freshening of the waters caused by anthropogenic climate change (via melting glaciers and increased water vapor transport into high latitudes) or simply by warming, would thus introduce a modest cooling tendency. Ming Chun Tang. We don’t need no steenkin’ permission!”. They can’t survive in space anymore than they can survive on some “refuge island” on earth. at 2-3 knots. If the world had tackled global warming decades ago, the required changes would have been less severe. As may be observed in the North Pacific, where the north flowing warm current off Japan is much less robust than the Gulf Stream. The kids have no idea about climate change or the general instability of the world. 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